Instant Review: Snow!
shelly
amount. and, it's purty:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/97312041@N00/71823531/
it was not exactly fun driving home in it yesterday, though. a 35
minute drive took me nearly three hours. that's three hours of
fish-tailing, too. the roads had not been plowed (i saw several plows
travelling in the opposite lane, with blades up. WTF?) or sanded or
anything. every place where the snow was churned up made me slide, so
intersections were, um, interesting. it was really a horrible, horrible
experience. but, i got home without wrecking.
the funny/good/sad part was that i managed to stay on the road, but when
i got home, i slid off our lane and got stuck tight in the neighbor's
yard. haw! much hilarity ensued. i was wearing stupid shoes and short
socks, for maximum snow-up-the-legs effect. i was dressed thoroughly
inappropriately, in a t-shirt and a hoodie, with no gloves, scarf, or
hat. no shovel, either. or cat litter. so, i had to walk home to get
properly dressed and get a shovel and cat litter (and to let harriet
out, which was hysterically funny. harriet: "eeew! WTF is *that*?!).
but, i got unstuck all by myself, which i'm sure, if the neighbors were
watching out their windows, afforded them much high-quality
entertainment. it also gave me a chance to work off all the
scared-to-vomiting energy i'd worked up driving home, so it was probably
all-in-all not a bad thing.
and then i got to hang out with harriet and play in the snow, which was
all kinds of fun. she was much put out at first, but she quickly got
her snow legs and did all sorts of snow-plowing, boinging,
snow-snorting, and bird chasing.
pictures from this morning of harriet in the snow (newest photos at the
bottom):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/97312041@N00/sets/379556/
(i have to say that i'm pretty happy with how the Tracker (AKA the
Pigeon of Delight) handled in the snow. yeah, i was slipping and
sliding all over the place, but not as badly as many other folks. and,
after i dug myself out of the neighbor's yard, i was able to actually
get up the driveway. that would *not* have been possible in the MPoD. i
<heart> my PoD.)
--
shelly
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-- Marcel Duchamp
Judy
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> it was not exactly fun driving home in it yesterday, though.
But, Yay you made it safely!
> it also gave me a chance to work off all the
> scared-to-vomiting energy i'd worked up driving home, so it was probably
> all-in-all not a bad thing.
Been there. Makes you feel so "empowered" after it's all over, doesn't it?
Doesn't make it worth it though.
> and then i got to hang out with harriet and play in the snow, which was
> all kinds of fun. she was much put out at first, but she quickly got
> her snow legs and did all sorts of snow-plowing, boinging,
> snow-snorting, and bird chasing.
Spenser came out this morning and took one look out the sliding door (where
they usually go out) and let out a "Huff" and headed for the basement door.
The dog is scary smart sometimes. He remembered that when there is a bunch
of snow on the deck that they are taken out through the basement and garage
until things get shovelled out. First time since last winter.
Sassy, the Boopsie Joyous Clueless One, didn't understand why but was
willing to follow along through the basement and garage. And when the side
garage door opened and she was faced with about a foot of drifted snow, she
made a flying leap and landed in over her head. Then bounded up the stairs
to the deck and back down again. Where she flung herself at Spenser, who
was trying to pick his way carefully to the *undrifted* spots. And he had
only left the garage after a path was cleared. At one point, Sassy was
completely covered in fluffy snow - just two little beady eyes sticking out.
My Buffalo Dogs - so very different.
Since the snow is so fluffy, we didn't even have to shovel out the "poop
yard" that we would normally need. We've had enough wind that there are
actual bare spots that the dogs can get to. And the fluffy snow doesn't
entrap them on the sidewalk like a heavy wet snow does.
So Sassy would definitely give the snow two paws up. And since she finally
got Spenser to play in it also, he'd probably have to agree. I'll even
withhold my normal negative thoughts about snow because it really hasn't
created much of problem for me. (But if that wind picks up and the road
drifts in, I'm coming back with a thunbs down.)
~~Judy
MauiJNP
>I don't know how much snow we finally ended up with, but it's a goodly
> amount. and, it's purty:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/97312041@N00/71823531/
>
> bottom):
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/97312041@N00/sets/379556/
>
>
great photos, glad she enjoyed the snow!
(pictures of my snow friends to follow)
ceb
news:9uijp1tqmo5ifj1lb...@4ax.com:
> I don't know how much snow we finally ended up with, but it's a goodly
> amount. and, it's purty:
>
It sure is! Nice pix. Too bad Harriet isn't enjoying herself...
The drive home sounds harrowing. Glad you made it safely!
--
Catherine
& Zoe the cockerchow
& Queenie the black gold retriever
& Rosalie the calico
Rocky
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> pictures from this morning of harriet in the snow (newest
> photos at the bottom):
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/97312041@N00/sets/379556/
Nice pictures and nice snow! Harriet's having a cool time!
Haw.
The snow's melting here now, exposing missed poo. Eww.
--
--Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
shelly
wrote:
>But, Yay you made it safely!
yep! but, i had my doubts. i'm a total baby about driving in the snow,
though, so this was a mind boggling experience. i've just not ever done
much snow driving, so i have zero confidence in my skill level. my mom
pointed out that i must not suck too much, though, because i *did* get
home without wrecking, while lots of people were not so fortunate. i
saw lots of cars that had slid off the road. some of them were so
higgelty-piggelty that it was impossible to tell which lane they'd come
from.
>Been there. Makes you feel so "empowered" after it's all over, doesn't it?
>Doesn't make it worth it though.
no, it doesn't make it worth it, but it *is* a nice feeling of
accomplishment.
>He remembered that when there is a bunch
>of snow on the deck that they are taken out through the basement and garage
>until things get shovelled out. First time since last winter.
what a smart boy!
>At one point, Sassy was
>completely covered in fluffy snow - just two little beady eyes sticking out.
what fun! it sounds like she had a lovely time
>Since the snow is so fluffy, we didn't even have to shovel out the "poop
>yard" that we would normally need. We've had enough wind that there are
>actual bare spots that the dogs can get to. And the fluffy snow doesn't
>entrap them on the sidewalk like a heavy wet snow does.
ours started out wet and heavy, then switched to light and fluffy. even
with the winds last night, though, there is a pretty even, thick blanket
of it on my yard. the fallow field behind me seems to have been at
least partially scoured, though. wind patterns are weird. i think
maybe there was a current of air coming off the gas and electrical
easements that blew the snow off the neighbor's field.
>So Sassy would definitely give the snow two paws up. And since she finally
>got Spenser to play in it also, he'd probably have to agree.
harriet and Spenser have a little bit in common. harriet likes the
snow, but she has to be reminded of why, and needs someone to hold her
paw and encourage her while she's figuring out what to do with all that
cold, white stuff. that used to be elliott's job, but now it's mine, i
guess. s'okay, though, because she's quite a lot of fun to play with.
>I'll even
>withhold my normal negative thoughts about snow because it really hasn't
>created much of problem for me. (But if that wind picks up and the road
>drifts in, I'm coming back with a thunbs down.)
we had wind last night, with lots o' drifting. i decided that i
deserved a snow day after my drive home yesterday, so i didn't even
*try* to get out this morning. that's probably a good thing, because i
know there's likely to be all sorts of drifting on our road.
--
shelly
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You are responsible, forever, for what you have tamed. You are
responsible for your rose.
-- Antoine de Saint-Exupery
shelly
>It sure is! Nice pix. Too bad Harriet isn't enjoying herself...
she is. she just needed to have her paw held. once she got
reacquainted with the idea of snow, she had all sorts of fun playing in
it.
>The drive home sounds harrowing. Glad you made it safely!
thanks! hopefully, that'll be a once-in-a-lifetime experience.
--
shelly
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A new gadget that lasts only five minutes is worth more than an immortal
work that bores everyone.
-- Francis Picabia
shelly
>great photos, glad she enjoyed the snow!
thank you!
>(pictures of my snow friends to follow)
i'm looking forward to them.
--
shelly
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My mother warned me to avoid things coloured red.
-- Claes Oldenburg
shelly
>Nice pictures and nice snow!
thanks! for some reason, i really like the one where she's camouflaged
against the tree line. i "lose" her in the back 40 all the time.
>Harriet's having a cool time! Haw.
watch out, Terri may show up with her pun gun and blam you to
smithereens.
>The snow's melting here now, exposing missed poo. Eww.
yuck. it's melting here, too. i don't think i'll go poo hunting,
though.
--
shelly
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Harriet Brown wears a man's felt hat that she bought in Spain
Harriet Brown, what a lovely name, such a lovely face.
-- Opal, Harriet Brown
ceb
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>>It sure is! Nice pix. Too bad Harriet isn't enjoying herself...
>
> she is. she just needed to have her paw held. once she got
> reacquainted with the idea of snow, she had all sorts of fun playing in
> it.
>
Oops, I guess I needed a smiley. She did look like she was enjoying
herself, I was being ironic.
We had ice here last night and I hate hate hate ice. Mercifully the
University gave us an hour's grace period to get to work this morning.
shelly
>Oops, I guess I needed a smiley. She did look like she was enjoying
>herself, I was being ironic.
i wondered if that was the case, but i wasn't sure.
>We had ice here last night and I hate hate hate ice. Mercifully the
>University gave us an hour's grace period to get to work this morning.
yuck! ice is way worse than snow.
--
shelly
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Colour is my day-long obsession, joy and torment.
-- Claude Monet
Judy
my mom
> pointed out that i must not suck too much, though, because i *did* get
> home without wrecking, while lots of people were not so fortunate.
Friend of mine was travelling from PA to southwest Iowa and ran right into
it. He said they counted 165 "accidents" in Iowa alone.
DH was talking with a trucker who had a friend who wrecked his car going 65
in a 65 mph zone. Because of the snow, the cops cited him for driving at an
"unsafe speed". Guy (not the trucker) thought that was completely
ridiculous since he *was* within the posted speed limit.
With idiots like that out on the road, anytime you make it home safely is a
very good thing.
~~Judy
Mary Healey
> Friend of mine was travelling from PA to southwest Iowa and ran right
> into it. He said they counted 165 "accidents" in Iowa alone.
According to my roommate's co-workers, there were 60+ cars in the ditches
along I-35 between Des Moines and Ames yesterday morning. Even people who
have experience with winter driving can be fooled.
I used to be pretty stoic about driving in difficult winter conditions, but
now I'm much more disinclined to go out when other people are likely
playing bumper cars. I've been on the interstate (I-80) when the road was
literally being closed behind me. I was younger and far more foolish then.
Judy
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> I used to be pretty stoic about driving in difficult winter conditions,
but
> now I'm much more disinclined to go out when other people are likely
> playing bumper cars. I've been on the interstate (I-80) when the road was
> literally being closed behind me. I was younger and far more foolish
then.
Yup. There are some things that we do get wiser about through the years.
We made the drive from PA to MN and back for Thanksgiving but each way we
moved our trip up a day to avoid potentially nasty weather. We had almost
totally dry roads both ways. (Skipped across Iowa and headed east while
those last tornadoes were still down in Arkansas.)
DH used to think of it all as a Challenge. It was FUN!!! He's definitely
outgrown that. I used to be braver about winter driving than I am now.
Partly because I was young and foolish. And partly because I (thought I)
needed more to get through it. I *can* still do it. But I don't. Now I
know there is damned little in this world that important.
And there are all those idiots out there.
~~Judy
Janet B
heels and said:
>
>The snow's melting here now, exposing missed poo. Eww.
I hate that. I've been watching and going out an scooping as well as
I can. With the icy crust, the poop isn't sinking, so that makes it a
little easier (that and having only 2 dogs to clean up after!).
Franklin is a doesn't-look-where-he's-stepping kind of dog, and snow
just makes it worse. I scoop as much as possible so we don't get it
tracked in.
--
Janet B
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/bestfriendsobedience/album
Robin Nuttall
> yep! but, i had my doubts. i'm a total baby about driving in the snow,
> though, so this was a mind boggling experience. i've just not ever done
> much snow driving, so i have zero confidence in my skill level. my mom
> pointed out that i must not suck too much, though, because i *did* get
> home without wrecking, while lots of people were not so fortunate. i
> saw lots of cars that had slid off the road. some of them were so
> higgelty-piggelty that it was impossible to tell which lane they'd come
> from.
>
Yep. Snow driving really isn't that hard though. You just drive
steadily, accelerate and decelerate slowly, and try to avoid the idiots.
>
> we had wind last night, with lots o' drifting. i decided that i
> deserved a snow day after my drive home yesterday, so i didn't even
> *try* to get out this morning. that's probably a good thing, because i
> know there's likely to be all sorts of drifting on our road.
>
Drifts can be fun! IF they aren't too deep. :) I used to cruise through
them in my little Toyo Tercel, it was light enough that it floated on
top of the deepest spots. I never, ever once got stuck in that car,
including in the 24" dumping we got in a single day.
Judy
news:9Snmf.391742$084.157637@attbi_s22...
> Drifts can be fun! IF they aren't too deep. :) I used to cruise through
> them in my little Toyo Tercel,
I used to play in snow drifts. Drive the car into them intentionally. Also
used to play in wide open icy parking lots - speed up or brake and put the
car into an intentional skid or slide. Then try to pull out of it. I think
having done a little of that makes you a better driver.
~~Judy
Rocky
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
>>The snow's melting here now, exposing missed poo. Eww.
>
> I hate that. I've been watching and going out an scooping
> as well as I can. With the icy crust, the poop isn't
> sinking, so that makes it a little easier (that and having
> only 2 dogs to clean up after!).
The secret is to pick it up right away. As you know, in high
winter, your picking-up-time is measured in seconds.
MauiJNP
>(pictures of my snow friends to follow)
>
> i'm looking forward to them.
>
The first 2 are Maui showing great restraint while Cali takes a very long
time eating a greenies bone, the rest are snow pictures
Rocky
> The first 2 are Maui showing great restraint while Cali
> takes a very long time eating a greenies bone, the rest are
> snow pictures
Good thing that your dogs are coloured differently from your
carpet, otherwise I wouldn't know where dog ended and weave
began.
Nice pictures. The third is my favourite.
ceb
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Oh my. Cali looks like she's having a great time in the snow!
MauiJNP
"Rocky" <2d...@rocky-dog.com> wrote in message
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> "MauiJNP" <jmh...@ptd.net> said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
>
>> The first 2 are Maui showing great restraint while Cali
>> takes a very long time eating a greenies bone, the rest are
>> snow pictures
>
> Good thing that your dogs are coloured differently from your
> carpet, otherwise I wouldn't know where dog ended and weave
> began.
>
> Nice pictures.
Thanks!
>The third is my favourite.
>
I agree. That one is my favorite too!
MauiJNP
"ceb" <ce...@virginia.edu> wrote in message
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> "MauiJNP" <jmh...@ptd.net> wrote in
> news:CiSdndaJlJu...@ptd.net:
>
>>>
>>>(pictures of my snow friends to follow)
>>>
>>> i'm looking forward to them.
>>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.kodakgallery.com/ShareLandingSignin.jsp?Uc=6x4sdtah.9qei0qcp
>> &Uy=pnw0g0&Upost_signin=Slideshow.jsp%3Fmode%3Dfromshare&Ux=0
>>
>> The first 2 are Maui showing great restraint while Cali takes a very
>> long time eating a greenies bone, the rest are snow pictures
>>
>>
>>
>
> Oh my. Cali looks like she's having a great time in the snow!
>
> --
yes, I wasn't sure what she would think but she loves it. She tries running
thru it even when it is over her head!
Paula
>"MauiJNP" <jmh...@ptd.net> said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
>
>> The first 2 are Maui showing great restraint while Cali
>> takes a very long time eating a greenies bone, the rest are
>> snow pictures
>
>Good thing that your dogs are coloured differently from your
>carpet, otherwise I wouldn't know where dog ended and weave
>began.
You can do that with poodles better than with shedders. I have to say
that I absolutely love my wood floors and prefer GSD fur to lab or
dalmatian fur. At first it seemed like it was worse because the long
hairs were so noticeable. But when it comes to cleaning them up or
getting them off your clothes, it is much easier to deal with. Sammie
wins the prize for easiest to clean up after, though. He makes up for
it by finding other ways to make sure we don't forget he is around.
--
Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy, so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
ceb
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> I have to say
> that I absolutely love my wood floors
I would like to hear more from people with wood floors. I had thought for
the longest time that I would like to have wood floors installed because
I think they look really nice and I did think they would be easier to
clean. But then the dogs and I visited a friend's house -- she had
hardwood floors throughout the house and not very many rugs, and Queenie
did a lot of sliding around, which was funny but I kind of thought might
not be good or pleasant for her on a full-time basis. I guess I was
thinking of when they get older too. I know with the arthritis in my
knee, unstable ground situations are unpleasant. And Queenie does have
dysplastic hips (although no trouble from them yet, as she is only 2.5 or
so).
The other thing is, my dad said he thought wood floors were harder to
keep clean than carpet, as they show the dirt and you can't just run the
vacuum over them. But then again, he's a big fan of carpet and we always
joke that he would carpet the kitchen and bathroom if he could.
Of course, carpeting is hard to keep clean because of stains, so I was
kind of thinking of those carpet squares -- I could just replace one if
it got too bad.
Just wondering what others think.
Melinda Shore
ceb <ce...@virginia.edu> wrote:
>The other thing is, my dad said he thought wood floors were harder to
>keep clean than carpet, as they show the dirt and you can't just run the
>vacuum over them.
Wow. Not to disrespect your father, but that's one of the
wrongest things I've heard in some time. Wood floors, if
they're finished well, are extremely easy to keep clean.
Carpets are not (and I've never found anything as difficult
to get out of carpeting as cat vomit). Wood floors do show
up dust and dog hair pretty easily but run a vacuum over it
and it's gone.
Also, hardwood floors add more value to your house.
A few years ago my brain was apparently overwhelmed by the
number of options available to it and it went off on its own
and had "Arctic White" carpeting installed in my living
room. Between the dogs and the cats and the woodstove (!!)
it was an obviously stupid thing for my brain to have done.
I chose carpeting because my house tends to be really cold
and I wanted some additional insulation between the basement
and my feet, but now I'm planning on ripping out the carpet
and putting in wood.
I'm not crazy about the way carpet squares look, but that's
one of those personal taste things. I put some in my
upstairs bathroom because it was cheap and fast and easy to
cut, but I'm looking forward to getting rid of them.
--
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ceb
news:dnhh53$gpt$1...@panix2.panix.com:
> In article <Xns972967F7A77DF...@128.143.2.66>,
> ceb <ce...@virginia.edu> wrote:
>>The other thing is, my dad said he thought wood floors were harder to
>>keep clean than carpet, as they show the dirt and you can't just run
>>the vacuum over them.
>
> Wow. Not to disrespect your father, but that's one of the
> wrongest things I've heard in some time. Wood floors, if
> they're finished well, are extremely easy to keep clean.
He does have strong ideas... I think maybe he meant that he finds that
kind of cleaning harder than vacuuming a carpet? But I'm not entirely
sure.
> Carpets are not (and I've never found anything as difficult
> to get out of carpeting as cat vomit). Wood floors do show
> up dust and dog hair pretty easily but run a vacuum over it
> and it's gone.
I think the fact that I don't vacuum often may also have entered into
his stance.
>
> Also, hardwood floors add more value to your house.
That is definitely true.
>
> A few years ago my brain was apparently overwhelmed by the
> number of options available to it and it went off on its own
> and had "Arctic White" carpeting installed in my living
> room.
This made me laugh out loud. My brain does the same thing.
Between the dogs and the cats and the woodstove (!!)
> it was an obviously stupid thing for my brain to have done.
> I chose carpeting because my house tends to be really cold
> and I wanted some additional insulation between the basement
> and my feet, but now I'm planning on ripping out the carpet
> and putting in wood.
You can't beat carpet for comfort, though. I like to be barefoot as much
as possible, and it is warmer.
>
> I'm not crazy about the way carpet squares look, but that's
> one of those personal taste things. I put some in my
> upstairs bathroom because it was cheap and fast and easy to
> cut, but I'm looking forward to getting rid of them.
I keep waffling about them too. I keep waffling about everything. The
house I grew up in had flagstone floors in the living/family room and I
keep thinking they would be nice. Part of me thinks that if I put some
kind of hard floor down, I will just cover most of it with rugs anyway,
so why not just get carpet?
What about the dog-sliding-around issue? Do you think your pack will
have trouble with that?
Judy
> I would like to hear more from people with wood floors. I had thought for
> the longest time that I would like to have wood floors installed because
> I think they look really nice and I did think they would be easier to
> clean. But then the dogs and I visited a friend's house -- she had
> hardwood floors throughout the house and not very many rugs, and Queenie
> did a lot of sliding around, which was funny but I kind of thought might
> not be good or pleasant for her on a full-time basis. I guess I was
> thinking of when they get older too. I know with the arthritis in my
> knee, unstable ground situations are unpleasant. And Queenie does have
> dysplastic hips (although no trouble from them yet, as she is only 2.5 or
> so).
When we remodeled a couple of years ago, all the carpet in our house went -
except for the guest room and den. (And I wouldn't mind doing them now.)
Put wood in the living room and master bedroom and tile in the kitchen,
dining room (which is also where the sliding door and our most commonly used
entrance is) and in the bathrooms.
We love the hardwood floor in the bedroom - it's beech and a little wider
board than the unselected maple we put in the living room. We also really
like the wood floor in the living room ("unselected" maple means that it has
boards with more color that "select" maple - which is usually pretty bland
IMO.) When we first got them, we were dogless. Everything worked great -
floors were easy to clean.
Then we got Spenser and later Sassy. While I still love the tile everyplace
we put it, the dogs have not been as pleased with the wood floors. We ended
up - and this will make hardwood lovers gasp - getting a large area rug for
our living room. (There's still a lot of wood visible all around it.) The
dogs just could not get footing to chase each other on the wood floors.
(Picture cartoon characters running in place!) They weren't comfortable
stretching out on the hard floor. They really, really like carpeting
better. The rug suffices in the living room and we put a rug alongside the
bed where they need good footing to jump up.
We had some people come to look at our floors - they were considering
putting in wood and wanted to see especially what the beech looked like.
The wife asked about dog toenails on the wood. I told her I had to admit
that they did leave some. (Heck, Spenser used to carry his bones up on the
back of the couch and drop them off just to hear them hit.) But I told her
also that I figured that we lived here and so did the dogs so if there are
toenail marks (we do dremel every week and there aren't *many*) then so be
it. Homes aren't supposed to be picture perfect. Eventually, if the floor
got looking too bad then we could always strip it down and refinish it -
probably less often than we would be replacing carpet.
As far as keeping the wood floors clean, they are less work than the ceramic
tile. (We, um *I*, made the mistake of using a light colored grout in the
kitchen and *it* has to be hand scrubbed a couple of times a year.)
IF I had it to do over, we would probably put carpet back in the living
room. I thought the wood floors might feel colder but they really don't.
The tile, yeah, does get cool on bare feet. We'd probably still have wood
in the bedroom. It does cut down on the dust and molds - which it seems
like all of us are allergic to at some level. But the dogs really prefer
carpet to play on.
~~Judy
Robin Nuttall
>
> What about the dog-sliding-around issue? Do you think your pack will
> have trouble with that?
>
I have an older house (not as in "beautiful antique" old, but as in
1960s ranch old) with hardwood floors. In my case the hardwood is far
from perfect--worn in spots, scarred, and I still think it's beautiful.
It has patina!
I use a few rugs. I vacuum EVERYTHING. I never, ever mop the wood. I
will occasionally swiffer it with a dry swiffer, but that's it. I vacuum
with the hand attachment of my kirby that has the brush on it. It works
much better and faster than sweeping, and my floors sort of have a soft
glow.
Carpets will definitely absorb more dust and hair. My wood floor house
is far dustier than most carpeted houses. I don't mind the feel on my
feet in winter because I wear socks anyway. In summer, the cool wood
feels very good.
The dogs, raised on these floors, do not slip unless they intend to.
Cala likes to slide to turn. And a training plus is that they are
confident on all kinds of flooring. I have found that dogs raised
strictly on carpet are often very apprehensive of shiny floors.
Melinda Shore
ceb <ce...@virginia.edu> wrote:
>What about the dog-sliding-around issue? Do you think your pack will
>have trouble with that?
I have hardwood in the dining room and halls, and (ugly)
linoleum in the kitchen. Mostly the dogs think that
slippery is lots and lots of fun, but it was an issue with
both Duncan and Greta as they got older. I remember one
time watching Duncan sitting in the dining room as his front
legs started to slip out from underneath him, headed in
opposite directions.
Rocky
> I would like to hear more from people with wood floors.
Me. And lots of dogs which use it.
> But then the
> dogs and I visited a friend's house -- she had hardwood
> floors throughout the house and not very many rugs, and
> Queenie did a lot of sliding around, which was funny but I
> kind of thought might not be good or pleasant for her on a
> full-time basis.
This shouldn't happen on a full time basis - even Bambi learned
how to skate. My experience is that dogs slide around while
playing for a very short time, they quickly learn the Laws of
Physics. Lack of carpet is a boon to my daycare: easier cleanup
*and* less enthusiastic play in the confined indoor area.
> I guess I was thinking of when they get
> older too. I know with the arthritis in my knee, unstable
> ground situations are unpleasant. And Queenie does have
> dysplastic hips (although no trouble from them yet, as she
> is only 2.5 or so).
Yes, that's an issue. You may recall the "Paw Wax Transfer" of
2002. Murphy started showing symptoms of her osteosarcoma
(exacerbated by hip dysplasia). With superb timing, I had just
ripped out carpet to expose hardwood, and taken delivery of an
active adolescent rescue dog (Friday). Smooth floors and two
younger dogs running and sliding around were not good for
Murphy. I think, though, if all dogs had been introduced to
such surfaces earlier there wouldn't have been an issue.
> The other thing is, my dad said he thought wood floors were
> harder to keep clean than carpet, as they show the dirt and
> you can't just run the vacuum over them. But then again,
> he's a big fan of carpet and we always joke that he would
> carpet the kitchen and bathroom if he could.
Carpet's only clean once.
> Of course, carpeting is hard to keep clean because of
> stains, so I was kind of thinking of those carpet squares
> -- I could just replace one if it got too bad.
In one of the later "This Old House" magazines, they outline a
whole lot of flooring products. I'm sure there's one for you.
FurPaw
> ceb <ce...@virginia.edu> said in rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
>>I guess I was thinking of when they get
>>older too. I know with the arthritis in my knee, unstable
>>ground situations are unpleasant. And Queenie does have
>>dysplastic hips (although no trouble from them yet, as she
>>is only 2.5 or so).
>
>
> Yes, that's an issue. You may recall the "Paw Wax Transfer" of
> 2002. Murphy started showing symptoms of her osteosarcoma
> (exacerbated by hip dysplasia). With superb timing, I had just
> ripped out carpet to expose hardwood, and taken delivery of an
> active adolescent rescue dog (Friday). Smooth floors and two
> younger dogs running and sliding around were not good for
> Murphy. I think, though, if all dogs had been introduced to
> such surfaces earlier there wouldn't have been an issue.
In my previous house, we had about half carpeting and half
hardwood floors. The four dogs coped, but then Dylan's
dysplastic hips began to bother her when she was about 8 and she
had increasing difficulty walking on the floors. We ended up
buying cheap runners and laying down paths over the wood, until
we moved. Our current house is all carpeted except for kitchen,
baths and closets, and impractical as it seems with dogs, it will
stay that way - for their comfort. :-)
FurPaw
--
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sighthounds & siberians
>In article <Xns9729733EAD49A...@128.143.2.66>,
>ceb <ce...@virginia.edu> wrote:
>>What about the dog-sliding-around issue? Do you think your pack will
>>have trouble with that?
>
>I have hardwood in the dining room and halls, and (ugly)
>linoleum in the kitchen. Mostly the dogs think that
>slippery is lots and lots of fun, but it was an issue with
>both Duncan and Greta as they got older. I remember one
>time watching Duncan sitting in the dining room as his front
>legs started to slip out from underneath him, headed in
>opposite directions.
That's a definite disadvantage of hardwood floors. We have them here
too, and Boomer and Matty (both have lumbosacral stenosis) both have
trouble with the rear legs sliding in opposite directions. Area rugs
and runners help.
Mustang Sally
Janet B
clicked their heels and said:
>I would like to hear more from people with wood floors.
Have had wood floors for the last 26 years, through many dogs (a lot
of puppies and some elderly - 15+ - dogs too). Wouldn't have carpet.
>The other thing is, my dad said he thought wood floors were harder to
>keep clean than carpet, as they show the dirt and you can't just run the
>vacuum over them.
Um, yeah you can. Now - hair clings to carpet more, rather than
creating dust bunnies, but it's not worth the increase in staining and
dirt.
> But then again, he's a big fan of carpet and we always
>joke that he would carpet the kitchen and bathroom if he could.
some people do. ick.
>Of course, carpeting is hard to keep clean because of stains, so I was
>kind of thinking of those carpet squares -- I could just replace one if
>it got too bad.
Those would be my choice is I was going to choose to carpet a room. I
still prefer hard surfaces.
Janet B
clicked their heels and said:
>
>I'm not crazy about the way carpet squares look, but that's
>one of those personal taste things. I put some in my
>upstairs bathroom because it was cheap and fast and easy to
>cut, but I'm looking forward to getting rid of them.
>--
these new ones don't look like squares at all - they seem to be a
pretty nice product.
Paula
>Paula <mmmtob...@earthlink.ent> wrote in
>news:61cnp1pbkal5civm0...@4ax.com:
>
>> I have to say
>> that I absolutely love my wood floors
>
>I would like to hear more from people with wood floors. I had thought for
>the longest time that I would like to have wood floors installed because
>I think they look really nice and I did think they would be easier to
>clean. But then the dogs and I visited a friend's house -- she had
>hardwood floors throughout the house and not very many rugs, and Queenie
>did a lot of sliding around, which was funny but I kind of thought might
>not be good or pleasant for her on a full-time basis.
The dogs did have to get used to the floors when they were used to
carpet. I have tile with a texture to it in the bathrooms and
kitchen/family room, so they have an easier time on that and do more
wrestling in there. That is a good thing. They don't slide much on
the wood floors even when they are running any more, though when they
are caught off guard there can be some funny moments. I am getting
ready to do my stairs and will see if that creates a problem. They do
like to barrel down the stairs. I want to put a carpet runner on the
stairs anyway, though, for kid safety as well as dog safety.
The older hardwood was hard to keep up, but the new stuff comes with a
treatment on it that makes it really easy to clean. I got a
distressed looking floor because I have kids and dogs. It hides dirt
until I can clean it and will also hide scratches once I get some.
All you have to do is take a hanger end, heat it up, and put it along
the scratch and it looks like more distressing. I also got a dark
color. I didn't want it to show every print. Between the dark shade
in general and the shading from looking more distressed, it hides just
about everything. I talked to a lot of people about it before
deciding to spend the money. The consensus was that although many
people now put hardwood in kitchens, etc. that it is still better to
do tile or a laminate in water areas. I have been glad to have the
tile in those areas, though it is colder. I used the textured tiles
for looks and for traction. I hate slipping on tile. I also got tile
that has a shaded look so it hides stuff. I don't want to mop every
time a kid or dog walks through. I got a big cheap rug that I put
outside the slider to the backyard that picks up mud from paws now
that it is wetter weather. That has helped a lot, too. I hang it
over my ladder and hose it off and leave it to dry periodically. I
hate carpeting for stains, for hanging on to hair and dirt and for
making my allergies a lot worse. You can always put rugs or those
sticky carpet tiles down on hard floors but you can't ever really
clean carpeting that is tacked down. Even my meticulous aunt was
shocked at what she saw when they pulled up her carpeting. She has
laminate floors now. With rugs, you can really get them clean and
make sure they are clean clear through. You can soak them with
enzymatic cleaner if you want to and throw them out if they get really
gross. I don't have expensive rugs because I have kids and dogs.
So, I highly recommend hardwood with a good treatment, dark color and
distressing, and cheap rugs with non-slip backing where appropriate.
Paula
wrote:
>hey weren't comfortable
>stretching out on the hard floor. They really, really like carpeting
>better. The rug suffices in the living room and we put a rug alongside the
>bed where they need good footing to jump up.
This is something that has been odd around here. The dogs like to
hang out on the wood floors more than where I still have carpet. I
figured maybe this was just a summer thing, but now that it is cold,
they still like the wood. They have given up the tile areas since the
summer passed, but not the wood. I'm not complaining, but am a little
perplexed.
Judy
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> This is something that has been odd around here. The dogs like to
> hang out on the wood floors more than where I still have carpet. I
> figured maybe this was just a summer thing, but now that it is cold,
> they still like the wood. They have given up the tile areas since the
> summer passed, but not the wood. I'm not complaining, but am a little
> perplexed.
I've found the first criteria for my dogs in choosing a place to nap is the
ability to keep track of the household from that spot. They *will*
occasionally go back into the den and nap in the crate (which gives them no
view of anything except the computer). But for the most part, sleeping
spots have to also maintain their view of the traffic areas of the house.
And close behind, is comfort. They never stretch out on the tile or even on
the wood, no matter what time of year. Always on a rug or in a dog bed or
on the furniture.
~~Judy
Judy
I am getting
> ready to do my stairs and will see if that creates a problem. They do
> like to barrel down the stairs. I want to put a carpet runner on the
> stairs anyway, though, for kid safety as well as dog safety.
On our interior cellar stairs, we painted but also spread sand - just like
we did on our agility equipment. We didn't want the carpet runner because
it was going to create edges and corners to collect stuff. And we were
concerned about the painted wood being too slippery for both humans and
dogs. The sand has worked out great. I don't know if I would do it on a
formal staircase.
> The older hardwood was hard to keep up, but the new stuff comes with a
> treatment on it that makes it really easy to clean.
No problems keeping ours clean. I don't know about new stuff versus old
stuff. Ours came from trees that I can point out to you (well, the
stumps.). We had it sawed and dried and made into connecting flooring. So
I'd guess it's the old type of hardwood (and it is hardwood versus pine
which will show more scratches) but we put a good sealer on it. Probably
the sealers are better than they used to be.
> I also got a dark
> color. I didn't want it to show every print. Between the dark shade
> in general and the shading from looking more distressed, it hides just
> about everything.
This is interesting - contrary to everything I've been told about flooring
in general. Dirt is actually light colored - except when it's wet or red
clay. So lighter colored floors actually hide dirt better than darker ones.
Darker ones are probably better at hiding stains. But dried dirt and a lot
of dog hair are sandy colored, not dark.
>I used the textured tiles
> for looks and for traction. I hate slipping on tile.
Love my tile floors. And yes, they were intentionally chosen to have
texture and therefore traction. In the bathroom, we actually built a shower
out of tiles (offset entrance and sloped floor to the drain so we don't need
a curtain) and all the research I did on it said that it also helps to use
smaller tiles on places like shower floors. The grout also adds texture and
reduces the slipping. So while we do have the 12 inch tiles in the kitchen
and much of the bathroom, the actual shower floor has smaller tiles.
>I
> hate carpeting for stains, for hanging on to hair and dirt and for
> making my allergies a lot worse.
Yeah, this was our thought also. Although at the time we did it, we were
dogless. And even now the dog hair isn't a factor for us. The advantages
of schnauzers. The allergies were not a major factor for us but we still
thought it would be a good thing to consider.
>Even my meticulous aunt was
> shocked at what she saw when they pulled up her carpeting.
Tell her most of it came from the carpet itself. The padding and the carpet
backing deteriorate over time. Faster if you do a lot of shampooing.
~~Judy
Janet B
clicked their heels and said:
>So lighter colored floors actually hide dirt better than darker ones.
yup. My light colored pergo in a high traffic area of my house
(family room which leads to the yard and office which leads to the
garage) looks clean even when I know it can't be. And dirt wipes off
of it very easily.
My red oak floors show dust more, but not dirt. They could use some
refinishing, but that is not easy when it involves a main traffic
pattern in your home. Living room, dining room, stairs, hallway, 3
bedrooms. UGH - Wish I could wave a magic wand!
Suja
"ceb" <ce...@virginia.edu> wrote in message:
> Just wondering what others think.
Glad you brought this up. I have what is at this point carpet beyond
salvaging, and would like to get something that is easier to keep clean.
The house wasn't built with doggie traffic flow in mind, and as a
consequence, the family room carpet looks a thousand years old. I have
ventured out and looked a few of the options out there, but quickly
retreated when I realized that there are about three gazillion products out
there, most of which would probably not work.
I do have matte vinyl in the foyer/kitchen area, and I cringe every time Pan
runs through it. Her feet go out in all sorts of directions, and she gets
NO traction on it whatsoever. Add slobber, and it is a recipe for disaster.
I suspect that neither dog (but especially Pan) would be happy if the family
room/study carpet were changed to something like that. I have thought about
rough finished tile, but that would more than likely be a PITA to clean,
unless great care is taken to make sure that the dirt that sticks to it
won't show. Also, I would probably need to have radiant heating put in
underneath the floor if I were to make that switch. I have cold feet
anyway, despite walking around in two pairs of wool socks in winter.
Suja
shelly
>Carpet's only clean once.
ugh. i have nightmares about that. i'm not germ-phobic, but
don't like walking on it in my bare feet, because i *know*
what's lurking in it. i like hard surfaces, because i know i
can get them absolutely clean if the mood strikes me.
--
shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net
http://cat-sidh.blogspot.com/
shelly
>They have given up the tile areas since the summer passed,
>but not the wood. I'm not complaining, but am a little
>perplexed.
tile wicks heat away, while wood is insulatory, so wood feels
warm to lie on in the winter. when i had wood floors, even
harriet (and the cats) often chose to lie on them instead of
the carpet. wood is also *much* softer than tile.
shelly
>I've found the first criteria for my dogs in choosing a place
>to nap is the ability to keep track of the household from
>that spot.
heh. harriet's first and only concern is comfort. the heck
with keeping tabs on anything.
shelly
>We had it sawed and dried and made into connecting flooring.
>So I'd guess it's the old type of hardwood (and it is
>hardwood versus pine which will show more scratches) but we
>put a good sealer on it. Probably the sealers are better
>than they used to be.
yes, that's a sealer matter. old pine is *hard*, and won't
dent and ding the way new pine will. my mom has pine floors
in the upstairs of her house--circa 1850s--and it's every bit
as hard and durable as the oak flooring downstairs.
>This is interesting - contrary to everything I've been told
>about flooring in general.
i found that out when i got a new car. the old car was
"white" (at least, at some point in its life), and hid dirt
wonderfully. the new car is indigo blue and shows every
splack of crud on it. it's not practical, but i hate white
cars so much that it's worth it.
Marcel Beaudoin
news:Xns972967F7A77DF...@128.143.2.66:
> I would like to hear more from people with wood floors. I had thought
> for the longest time that I would like to have wood floors installed
> because I think they look really nice and I did think they would be
> easier to clean.
I went from apartment with carpet to house with hardwood throughout. Let me
tell you that it is a world of difference. The hardwood is much easier to
clean (Swiffer WetJets rule) and much quicker to clean. I am naturally
warm-blooded, so don't really notice the coolness of the flooring that
much. In the summer, I do notice that my bare-feet get dirtier quicker, but
it doesn't really bother me all that much when balanced with the quicker
cleaning.
--
Marcel and Moogli
http://mudbunny.blogspot.com/
scouv...@bluemarble.net
>
> The first 2 are Maui showing great restraint while Cali takes a very long
> time eating a greenies bone, the rest are snow pictures
oh my. they're both adorable. i have to say, though, that the one of
Cali swimming in the snow is my favorite. she's a spunky little girl!
shelly
shelly
>In the summer, I do notice that my bare-feet get dirtier
>quicker, but it doesn't really bother me all that much when
>balanced with the quicker cleaning.
considering that i walk around outside barefoot, it hardly
seems like an issue to me. my feet are *always* dirty when
it's warm out.
Judy
news:Pine.BSF.4.56.05...@tesla.bluemarble.net...
> i found that out when i got a new car. the old car was
> "white" (at least, at some point in its life), and hid dirt
> wonderfully. the new car is indigo blue and shows every
> splack of crud on it. it's not practical, but i hate white
> cars so much that it's worth it.
Better than white is silver. We live and spend most of our time on dirt
roads. Silver is the absolute best. Amazingly, white is much better than
anyone would think. In spite of that, when several years ago I fell in love
with a dark green Monte Carlo, we managed to live with it.
~~Judy
Judy
news:FCgnf.140097$0l5.64819@dukeread06...
Also, I would probably need to have radiant heating put in
> underneath the floor if I were to make that switch. I have cold feet
> anyway, despite walking around in two pairs of wool socks in winter.
DH says that we will never have another house without in floor heat.
There's just no practical way to do it here. But if there's ever another
house.......
~~Judy
shelly
>Better than white is silver. We live and spend most of our
>time on dirt roads. Silver is the absolute best.
unfortunately, the thing that makes silver and white such good
camouflage colors for road dirt also makes them dangerous--they
can be really difficult to see against the road.
>Amazingly, white is much better than anyone would think. In
>spite of that, when several years ago I fell in love with a
>dark green Monte Carlo, we managed to live with it.
i'd much rather put up with a dirty looking car than have
another white one. i *hate* white cars. hatehatehate them.
Melinda Shore
Judy <dou...@cableracer.com> wrote:
>I've found the first criteria for my dogs in choosing a place to nap is the
>ability to keep track of the household from that spot.
That's one factor that my guys have as a priority. The
other is blocking access to me. They're not aggressive or
pushy about it, but Emmett, Crow, and Image in particular do
keep an eye towards making sure they're situated between me
and the other dogs.
Duncan used to park himself under my desk while I was
working. I can't imagine it was comfortable.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - sh...@panix.com
1/3 of US GDP growth is based in consumer borrowing
shelly
>Duncan used to park himself under my desk while I was
>working. I can't imagine it was comfortable.
elliott used to do that, as well. he was of the "keep an eye
on things" mindset. harriet, who is not, does not tend to
park herself under my feet. in fact, she's rarely underfoot
in any capacity. the cats, on the other hand, have a death
wish.
Rocky
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> They have given up the tile areas since the
> summer passed, but not the wood. I'm not complaining, but
> am a little perplexed.
Furry Rocky's favourite spot, even in the dead of winter, is the
tile in my bay window - the floor there is poorly insulated and
can get very cold.
Rocky
> In one of the later "This Old House" magazines, they
> outline a whole lot of flooring products.
I found the article - there are some real cool snap-together
flooring systems. I'd like to put the one they recommend for a
workshop into my kitchen:
http://www.tuffsealtile.com/
shelly
>I found the article - there are some real cool snap-together
>flooring systems. I'd like to put the one they recommend for
>a workshop into my kitchen:
> http://www.tuffsealtile.com/
very cool. it's like Legos for your floor.
chris jung
"Judy" <dou...@cableracer.com> wrote in message
news:405a2lF...@individual.net...
Both Pablo and Lucy like to be near me. As far as Pablo is concerned,
that's good enough and he doesn't need to actually keep watch on any
activity. I've told him that his main job is to hold down the couch and he
does that with admirable dedication. Lucy, OTOH, is a curious busy-body and
likes to be where she can keep track of any going-ons and, if necessary,
comment on them. We live in a residential neighborhood with lots of people,
bikes, skateboarders, scooters, deer & dogs going by. As you can tell from
these photos ( http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/chrisjjung/my_photos go to
"Lucy at rest" album), Lucy has figured out a lady-like way to nap AND keep
tabs on her domain.
Chris and her smoothies,
Pablo and Lucy
ceb
@dukeread06:
>> Just wondering what others think.
>
> Glad you brought this up. I have what is at this point carpet beyond
> salvaging, and would like to get something that is easier to keep clean.
>
I really appreciate all the discussion on this topic. It's great to hear
what others think, it gets me out of my beady little brain and gives me
information I never would have thought of.
I haven't decided anything and will probably waffle for a while longer (at
least until I have enough money to actually DO something about it).
--
Catherine
& Zoe the cockerchow
& Queenie the black gold retriever
& Rosalie the calico
Marcel Beaudoin
news:Xns972A908DB869C...@128.143.2.66:
> I haven't decided anything and will probably waffle for a while longer
> (at least until I have enough money to actually DO something about
> it).
>
One thing to keep in mind is that as long as you have one person who knows
what they are doing (and has the right tools), most hardwood flooring can
be put down without professional help.
ceb
@twister.nyroc.rr.com:
> Lucy has figured out a lady-like way to nap AND keep
> tabs on her domain.
>
Good dog! Her extremely long and aristocratic snout really gives her the
air of being the grand dame of the block!
drgutsyd...@yahoo.com
all the dog hair does not get so tangled.
Of course there is always the option of tying the loose ends of the end
of the carpet that is and getting them out of the way of the cat and
dog hair.
Now with hard wood floors that is definatly not neededl, in my opinion
that is so why not use both either or I like it both ways.
MauiJNP
<scouv...@bluemarble.net> wrote in message
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yes she is full of spunk (and that picture is my favorite too)
she was doing that a lot so I am glad that I got a good picture!
Mark Shaw
> Also, hardwood floors add more value to your house.
Careful, though: that's very true, but remember that laminate
is not hardwood. Laminates can actually make your house less
attractive to buyers when you put it on the market.
I went the middle road: engineered hardwood. I shopped around a
bit, and got a pretty good deal on it.
If I were planning to stay here forever, I might've gone for
laminates. But in the interim I would've only saved a couple of
kilobucks - and that's certainly not worth it.
Remember also, too, that even if you have hardwood or some other
non-fabric surface, you're still going to want area rugs here and
there. And I can tell you that it was more than a little bit
interesting chasing after a puppy during the housebreaking stage
on the antique oriental rugs I inherited.... :)
--
Mark Shaw (And Baron) moc TOD liamg TA wahsnm
=========================================================================
"A dog teaches a boy fidelity, perseverance,
and to turn around three times before lying down." -Robert Benchley
Judy
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And I can tell you that it was more than a little bit
> interesting chasing after a puppy during the housebreaking stage
> on the antique oriental rugs I inherited.... :)
Oh man, I think I'd have rolled those things up until the housebreaking
stage was past. 'Cause you know they're just gonna be like a magnet to him.
Oh wait, it's a schnauzer. He probably broke in, what, a day and a half?
Or are standards more difficult than miniatures?
~~Judy
Mark Shaw
> One thing to keep in mind is that as long as you have one person who knows
> what they are doing (and has the right tools), most hardwood flooring can
> be put down without professional help.
Well. I haven't done hardwood myself (I hired the job out), but
I've helped with tile installation. And we certainly could have
used professional help when it was all done.
As it was, we settled for whisky and called it good.
--
Mark Shaw (And Baron) moc TOD liamg TA wahsnm
=========================================================================
"If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain dogs I have
known will go to heaven, and very, very few persons." -James Thurber
Judy
news:mQjnf.28107$XC4....@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Both Pablo and Lucy like to be near me. As far as Pablo is concerned,
> that's good enough and he doesn't need to actually keep watch on any
> activity.
The prime location for both dogs is as bookends on the back of the couch.
They can keep track of the neighborhood and the household at the same time.
And our couch back is the perfect width and squishiness for them to either
stretch out or curl up and have a sairly solid position.
However, if I get spending too long back in the den, before long both dogs
will have wandered back there and found sleeping places. And the den has
carpet and a dog crate and a dog bed - so there are a lot of choices. But
no outside view.
Spenser used to *always* be at my feet at the desk. He seems to have mostly
outgrown that. Now when he suddenly appears at my feet it's because there's
someone walking around the house with a dremel in his hand. (Because, yeah,
it's SO terrible to be held on a lap and dremeled.)
They prefer that both DH and I be in the same room. If we're not, the dogs
quite often split up so that we each have one. Not always the same one.
And they can't stand it if one of us gets up in the morning and the other
stays in bed. In their minds, it's just not right.
~~Judy
Mark Shaw
> "Mark Shaw" <ms...@bangnetcom.com> wrote in message
> news:dnkp2l$a18$1...@reader2.panix.com...
> And I can tell you that it was more than a little bit
> > interesting chasing after a puppy during the housebreaking stage
> > on the antique oriental rugs I inherited.... :)
> Oh man, I think I'd have rolled those things up until the housebreaking
> stage was past. 'Cause you know they're just gonna be like a magnet to him.
> Oh wait, it's a schnauzer. He probably broke in, what, a day and a half?
That's about right, actually. It was still a bit nerveracking.
Oh, and he's still a destructive chewer from time to time. I
turned my back on him for five minutes the other day and found
him destroying the frame pads on the waterbed....
--
Mark Shaw (And Baron) moc TOD liamg TA wahsnm
=========================================================================
"He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog. You are his
life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the
last beat of his heart. You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."
-Unknown
bet...@aol.com
Melinda Shore wrote:
>
>
> A few years ago my brain was apparently overwhelmed by the
> number of options available to it and it went off on its own
> and had "Arctic White" carpeting installed in my living
> room. Between the dogs and the cats and the woodstove (!!)
> it was an obviously stupid thing for my brain to have done.
> I chose carpeting because my house tends to be really cold
> and I wanted some additional insulation between the basement
> and my feet, but now I'm planning on ripping out the carpet
> and putting in wood.
>
>
Wow! Flashbacks to my mother putting in off white berber in a family
room when she had a dog and three grandchildren visiting often.
I'm lucky in that my furnace is in the crawl space so my floors stay
warm.
Beth
chris jung
"ceb" <ce...@virginia.edu> wrote in message
news:Xns972A937523853...@128.143.2.66...
> "chris jung" <cj...@twcny.rr.com> wrote in news:mQjnf.28107$XC4.8497
> @twister.nyroc.rr.com:
>
>> Lucy has figured out a lady-like way to nap AND keep
>> tabs on her domain.
>>
>
> Good dog! Her extremely long and aristocratic snout really gives her the
> air of being the grand dame of the block!
>
That's what she would like you to think. Lucy is very photogenic and loves
to strike a pose. In these photos she may look like an elegant grand dame
but in RL she's a coy, charming, ditzy blond collie princess. Now our late
Zeffie, a very dignified collie, was a Queen (motto: "We are not amused").
Chris and her smoothies,
Pablo & Lucy the Goose
Judy
> Oh, and he's still a destructive chewer from time to time. I
> turned my back on him for five minutes the other day and found
> him destroying the frame pads on the waterbed....
They are creative dogs.
Our breeder (who used to have standards and loves them dearly) says all of
hers played in the toilet. Climb right in and splash around. So you see
what you have to look forward to!
~~Judy
Paula
wrote:
Molly's favorite daytime spot is at the landing at the top of the
stairs. Nobody in the family can get past her to go to another part
of the house without her knowing and she can look out a window onto
the street and make sure nothing messes with her domain.
--
Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy, so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
Paula
wrote:
>> I also got a dark
>> color. I didn't want it to show every print. Between the dark shade
>> in general and the shading from looking more distressed, it hides just
>> about everything.
>
>This is interesting - contrary to everything I've been told about flooring
>in general. Dirt is actually light colored - except when it's wet or red
>clay. So lighter colored floors actually hide dirt better than darker ones.
>Darker ones are probably better at hiding stains. But dried dirt and a lot
>of dog hair are sandy colored, not dark.
My big shedders have black fur, which is what is on the floor most and
needs to be hidden most. As far as mud, it shows up more on the
lighter tile than the darker wood, but it could be all the shading and
distressing that hides it more than the color, I suppose. Dust shows
up more on the wood than the tile, but we rarely have a dust problem.
With all it takes to get the dog hair tumbleweeds under control, dust
doesn't get much chance to settle.
Paula
<ms...@bangnetcom.com> wrote:
>Marcel Beaudoin <marcel....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> One thing to keep in mind is that as long as you have one person who knows
>> what they are doing (and has the right tools), most hardwood flooring can
>> be put down without professional help.
>
>Well. I haven't done hardwood myself (I hired the job out), but
>I've helped with tile installation. And we certainly could have
>used professional help when it was all done.
>
>As it was, we settled for whisky and called it good.
And if it turns out really bad, it's just a good excuse to keep the
whiskey flowing!
Mark Shaw
> "Mark Shaw" <ms...@bangnetcom.com> wrote in message
> news:dnl0lu$5da$4...@reader2.panix.com...
> > Oh, and he's still a destructive chewer from time to time. I
> > turned my back on him for five minutes the other day and found
> > him destroying the frame pads on the waterbed....
> They are creative dogs.
And lawyerly. I never DID tell him not to chew up the bed,
you know....
> Our breeder (who used to have standards and loves them dearly) says all of
> hers played in the toilet. Climb right in and splash around. So you see
> what you have to look forward to!
Remember, we had a lab previously. We learned to keep all the
toilet lids down YEARS ago.
That beard of his is enough of an annoyance when he's just
visited his normal water bowl.
--
Mark Shaw (And Baron) moc TOD liamg TA wahsnm
=========================================================================
"If your dog is fat, you aren't getting enough exercise." - Unknown
Judy
> Judy <dou...@cableracer.com> wrote:
> > They are creative dogs.
>
> And lawyerly. I never DID tell him not to chew up the bed,
> you know....
Exactly his point.
> That beard of his is enough of an annoyance when he's just
> visited his normal water bowl.
"Annoyance"? That's it. He comes to live with me.
Actually, my brother's golden can spread more water from his dish around
than any group of schnauzers. And he mixes in hair. So count your
blessings.
~~Judy
Robin Nuttall
>
> Remember, we had a lab previously. We learned to keep all the
> toilet lids down YEARS ago.
>
> That beard of his is enough of an annoyance when he's just
> visited his normal water bowl.
>
Hey his brother Moose has picked up three 4-point majors over two
weekends! As a 6 month old puppy. And in case you don't know what that
means, it's good. Very, very amazing.
Judy
news:QpAnf.617485$x96.88165@attbi_s72...
> Hey his brother Moose has picked up three 4-point majors over two
> weekends! As a 6 month old puppy. And in case you don't know what that
> means, it's good. Very, very amazing.
Wow! That is some brother!
It's, what, 15 points to a championship? So he's only got three points to
go?
Remember too that many judges don't like giving majors to puppies - don't
want the getting that CH until they are full grown, just in case they don't
fulfill that early promise.
So these judges are really, really liking what they see.
~~Judy
Judy
> "Mark Shaw" <ms...@bangnetcom.com> wrote in message
> news:dnlo06$dtu$5...@reader2.panix.com...
> > Judy <dou...@cableracer.com> wrote:
> > > They are creative dogs.
> >
> > And lawyerly. I never DID tell him not to chew up the bed,
> > you know....
>
> Exactly his point.
Oh, yeah - did you explain to him that the not chewing up the bed rule was
for tomorrow and the next day also?
~~Judy
Rocky
rec.pets.dogs.behavior:
> Actually, my brother's golden can spread more water from
> his dish around than any group of schnauzers.
Through soppage, Rocky can move an entire waterbowl from one
room to the next.
> And he mixes
> in hair. So count your blessings.
They should get a Friday. Friday often cleans up Rocky's flews,
and it's not a submissive gesture - it only happens when Rocky
is dripping or salivating. Sometimes it can be quite gross.
Theresa Willis
wrote:
>On Sun, 11 Dec 2005 11:41:16 -0500, "Judy" <dou...@cableracer.com>
>wrote:
>
>>hey weren't comfortable
>>stretching out on the hard floor. They really, really like carpeting
>>better. The rug suffices in the living room and we put a rug alongside the
>>bed where they need good footing to jump up.
>
>This is something that has been odd around here. The dogs like to
>hang out on the wood floors more than where I still have carpet. I
>figured maybe this was just a summer thing, but now that it is cold,
>they still like the wood. They have given up the tile areas since the
>summer passed, but not the wood. I'm not complaining, but am a little
>perplexed.
Most likely they are messing with your head.
shelly
<tdwi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Most likely they are messing with your head.
as long as they put it back when they're done.
--
shelly
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-- Eddie Izzard
Robin Nuttall
> "Robin Nuttall" <rob...@mchsi.com> wrote in message
> news:QpAnf.617485$x96.88165@attbi_s72...
>
>>Hey his brother Moose has picked up three 4-point majors over two
>>weekends! As a 6 month old puppy. And in case you don't know what that
>>means, it's good. Very, very amazing.
>
>
> Wow! That is some brother!
>
> It's, what, 15 points to a championship? So he's only got three points to
> go?
Yes. It takes 2 majors and 15 points. So he needs 3 singles.
>
> Remember too that many judges don't like giving majors to puppies - don't
> want the getting that CH until they are full grown, just in case they don't
> fulfill that early promise.
>
> So these judges are really, really liking what they see.
>
Yep.
Paula
<tdwi...@earthlink.net> wrote:
These dogs have lived with me long enough to know that I have no head
to mess with. Even my kids don't bother messing with my head. Mimi
was outraged when her new stepmom accused her of trying to get out of
going to bed by going to take the bath that she had promised her dad
she would take before she went to bed. "But, MOM!" she told me when
she called me up, "I would just ask if I could stay up later if I
didn't want to go to bed! Then it's HER job to tell me if I have to
or if I can stay up later." I have to send them to school to figure
out how to play mind games and be sneaky. I don't even let the dogs
go to school.